JDM CRX Front End Info

messatsu CR-X · #31 (**permalink**) 10-11-2004, 08:14 PM

You have to splicwe the wires but it's not very hard at all. If you have the harness for the jdm headlights then you just have to match up the wires.

ukdm crx · #32 (**permalink**) 10-11-2004, 08:30 PM

Ok cool that was the answer I was looking for, THX.

**schwanginpt** · #33 (**permalink**) 10-11-2004, 09:45 PM

yup. the are color matched for the high and low beams.. and just combine the grounds, and thats it.. about a 10 min task.

Paul

Exempt · #34 (**permalink**) 02-10-2005, 02:37 AM

hey Paul, or anyone who might know really... I have a question, it was asked, but I wasnt clear on the answer... Do u think the hoods sold on Passwordjdm, or any other carbon fiber hoods made for the SiR conversion, will have the latch issue? Cuz I think I want to do this, and I may just peice mine together and hopefully save $... Or just buy the whole setup from passwordjdm with the CF hood instead of the OEM hood... So if I do that, will I have to worry about modifiying the latch u think?

**schwanginpt** · #35 (**permalink**) 02-11-2005, 10:47 AM

well, im pretty sure that an SiR CF hood is going to fit like a JDM SiR hood.

and i think Andy covered this before about just making sure you get the right rad support. i think it was EF6 you would be ok, but EF8 wouldn't work (i had EF8 and had to modify it)

so i think if you just piece it together, you will be ok, just look for an EF6 rad support, and you should be ok.

Paul

1QWKCRX · #36 (**permalink**) 02-11-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by schwanginpt

well, im pretty sure that an SiR CF hood is going to fit like a JDM SiR hood.

and i think Andy covered this before about just making sure you get the right rad support. i think it was EF6 you would be ok, but EF8 wouldn't work (i had EF8 and had to modify it)

so i think if you just piece it together, you will be ok, just look for an EF6 rad support, and you should be ok.

Paul

They actually make a JDM style hood (with the JDM hump vs the USDM dump) for USDM spec cars.
In regards to the rad support: this is one of the biggest misconceptions about the JDM SiR conversion process.
The JDM rad support and USDM rad support are the same. With the only exception of the vent on the JDM part.
People say that you need to add 100 washers or weld this or that to make it fit, and none of that is true.
The only mod needed to make the hood fit is to slot the latch on the hood its self and slide it back about 1".

**schwanginpt** · #37 (**permalink**) 02-11-2005, 03:42 PM

well, he's talking about doing an SiR conversion, so that JDM style hood wont solve his issue..

and if you check page 2 of this thread, and read what JHMED said about the rad supports, you will see that there is a difference between EF8 and other JDM rad supports.

Exempt, just check out page 2 of this thread, and check out Andy's posts on the rad supports, hes got pics and explains it really well (no need in posting it, when its in this thread IMO

)

Paul

ukdm crx · #38 (**permalink**) 02-11-2005, 04:17 PM

A late spec (90-91) EF7 rad support also works, that's what i'm using.

JHMED · #39 (**permalink**) 02-11-2005, 08:35 PM

The correct rad support to use to be able to latch the hood properly is the one from 90/91 EF6 or EF7 ONLY. If you get the rad support from an EF8 (the one with the large 3" rectangle cut out for the air intake hose) it will have to be modified, as the chassis is about 3/4 inch longer in a true EF8.

Exempt · #40 (**permalink**) 02-11-2005, 08:48 PM

K, thanks for the clarification guys!

1QWKCRX · #41 (**permalink**) 02-15-2005, 01:17 PM

Guys guys guys!!!! I have NO idea what you are all talking about!
The USDM Si rad support and the JDM SiR support are IDENTICAL except for the vent cut out on the left side. They are the same dimensions!
I have placed them side by side and I am using the JDM rad support with NO modifications needed!
The mod need to be done to the hood latch, not the rad support.
I have plenty of photos if you need to see how its done. Very clean and not all jerry-rigged.

ukdm crx · #42 (**permalink**) 02-15-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QWKCRX

Guys guys guys!!!! I have NO idea what you are all talking about!
The USDM Si rad support and the JDM SiR support are IDENTICAL except for the vent cut out on the left side. They are the same dimensions!
I have placed them side by side and I am using the JDM rad support with NO modifications needed!
The mod need to be done to the hood latch, not the rad support.
I have plenty of photos if you need to see how its done. Very clean and not all jerry-rigged.

I know what your talking about yes they are the same but where the hood latch is the jdm one is pushed forward like .5"-1".

Cause there is no way you can use a usdm rad support and jdm hood withought modding something. Even on mine where i'm using a late spec EF7 hood and a EF7 rad support I still had to put 2 washers on the hood cause the latch needed to be pushed down some.

JHMED · #43 (**permalink**) 03-27-2005, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukdm crx

I know what your talking about yes they are the same but where the hood latch is the jdm one is pushed forward like .5"-1".

I think this thread should've been CLOSED (and stickied) a LONG time ago. Too many ppl posting and confusing what is a VERY VERY simple thing to understand IMO.

Exempt · #44 (**permalink**) 03-27-2005, 04:12 AM

Well, if theres confusion, if should be cleared up IMO... Not just closed and leave ppl out to dry... Some ppl have to have it explained differently is all... And with JDM parts, theres bound to be some inconsistantcies (specially since we all know how Honda is)... So ppl tell their own experiences theyve had installing the JDM hood, and how they got it to work... I think thats the way this post should be, tell how u did it... So those who havnt can choose the way they feel is best for them and try it out...

JHMED · #45 (**permalink**) 03-27-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exempt

Well, if theres confusion, if should be cleared up IMO... Not just closed and leave ppl out to dry... Some ppl have to have it explained differently is all... And with JDM parts, theres bound to be some inconsistantcies (specially since we all know how Honda is)... So ppl tell their own experiences theyve had installing the JDM hood, and how they got it to work... I think thats the way this post should be, tell how u did it... So those who havnt can choose the way they feel is best for them and try it out...

I agree but there are too many ppl who don't read the thread thoroughly and then post and they give misleading info etc... and then you get even more ppl responding to THAT... that's what is confusing. This thread is too cluttered. That is what I meant in my post. What I am suggesting is that someone very simply and succinctly re-write this thread so that it is easier to undestand and clearer. Include all the facts about the differences between the front ends and rad supports, and then do a section on the different ways to modify the front end to work properly. Lets let the rumors and speculation end HERE. Once and for all.

This whole front end situation is very straightforward and simple... there are very few inconsistencies... Honda is one of the simplest auto manufacturers out there, especially with the 4th Gen Civic and 2nd Gen CRX. There only appear to be these inconsistencies because people think they know what they are talking about and they have wrong information. That wrong info is then taken by others to be FACT and then thats where the problem lies. A couple years ago I was told by more than one source that all I needed was the SiR rad support and my hood would close. As we all know, that was someone's MISINFORMATION taken as FACT and passed on to countless people. That's why Paul started this thread in the first place.

I also think that once and for all the question of the Auto AirCon modification should be covered, in full detail. Very few of us have all the pieces to put this together. I know I do, and I know that Paul is VERY close. Now that I am getting the SiR I don't need to put mine together but there is so much mis-information on other sites that I really feel these two topics should be covered here once and for all and above all... ACCURATELY (same as the front end question).

It boggles my mind my how so many people who want to do all this JDM shit and how big the scene is yet how few of us actually have the right information to do it properly... I'm not professing to know everything, but I *do* know a lot about this stuff... that's not ego talking. I have spent literally years researching and collecting info on JDM EF stuff. Having access to Honda Japan parts computer and reading the JDM repair manual (ok, ok - I looked at the pictures

) has a lot to do with that... and its VERY frustrating to see the same JDM Myths and stuff that should have been squashed YEARS ago still surfacing 3 and 4 years down the road...

I like this site, and as some of you know, its the only one I come to... most of the others seem too 'snobby' and don't focus on the aspect of cars that I prefer... I want this site to be the ultimate JDM resource for people who want to do these conversions, and with the RIGHT info. There's no reason why this board can't be the best one on the 'net for tech advise and JDM discussion. We have a lot of smart and innovative people, the most polite and courteous (sp?) folks (no flaming ppl's rides and stupid shit like that) that I've seen...

Thats my rant... this is prolly the wrong thread to say this shit in, but oh well.

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