The best motor build for the $$$$.cents

[bambue29]

What up my JdM pEePs! winter is coming fast damn :-(. Anywho my question today is all motor build on b18c. which combo is a great set up for a street ride and weekend track murderer. Looking at cams gears, valve springs,forged piston,titanium retainers,camshafts,webers injection kit, piston rods. I'm looking at Skunks 2, spoon, toda, and what every you techs think is away to go. If you can give me a idea cost of the setup thanks. I'm right now pushing 160hp with aem performance parts act clutch fine tune ecu chip but I want more juice no turbo or supercharger. So inputs I'm looking for I'm thinking it may cost about 6gs for everything what do you think I what the best of the best. Thanks for your inputs Go!gO!Go! JdM dRiVeRs!

[rascles]

buy a type r, and run a daily tuned 50shot bottle full at all times, you never know when your going to need to shillack some angry v8 driver

[SergEK]

Originally Posted by bambue29

What up my JdM pEePs! winter is coming fast damn :-(. Anywho my question today is all motor build on b18c. which combo is a great set up for a street ride and weekend track murderer. Looking at cams gears, valve springs,forged piston,titanium retainers,camshafts,webers injection kit, piston rods. I'm looking at Skunks 2, spoon, toda, and what every you techs think is away to go. If you can give me a idea cost of the setup thanks. I'm right now pushing 160hp with aem performance parts act clutch fine tune ecu chip but I want more juice no turbo or supercharger. So inputs I'm looking for I'm thinking it may cost about 6gs for everything what do you think I what the best of the best. Thanks for your inputs Go!gO!Go! JdM dRiVeRs!

Silly noob

NA = displacement

F/H/K = Win

D/B = lose

Sell the B block/head and pickup an F20B for an H2B build -- the F20b will rev high if you want that or if you just want sheer power you can build a G23/24 VTEC and run 11s/10's NA with a strong build

I will say this again --- for the money you will spend to build you B you will make more power an go faster with an H22 head on a large block of your choice.....F22, F20B etc...the F20B has a great cyl head and Type S cams out of the box and most of those with I/H/E will push 195-210whp with 140-150ftlbs of torque

So a $1000 F20B is faster out of the box than even an ITR motor and is cheaper

Wrap your head around that for a sec and youll wonder why all the JDM fanbois are obsessed with ITR motors...before H2B the ITR motor held some big advantages, namely the trans....now...it really doesnt have that advantage and loses in every other category.....still confused...Ill break it down for the noobs

B series Head ----- H22 head

H head flows more out of the box and with a 3 angle valve job more than a ported B series head...just a size thing

H head fits on much larger blocks which means more displacement capbilities...if VTEC is awesome with a 1.8 imagine it with 2.6!

H heads and blocks (F series/H series) are super cheap and plentiful....the newer F blocks for accords too...its crazy

H22 heads are supported by the same manufacturers as the B for the most part and is actually gaining more steam because alot of B series drag racers are making the smaller jump to H vs going K and still having a big block 2.4L motor making 280-300whp NA

Cams cost the same if not less, same thing with springs, retainers, pistons, rods etc...so the build cost is similar except for a few things.

To build a big B you have to sleeve it....$800....F/H blocks are already big
To flow big numbers on a B you have to get headwork 1200-2K...H22 just needs a 3 angle valve job...$600

Header -- same price, ITBs -- same price, injectors etc...you get the point.

Its cheaper to build a big F/H and make more power than to build a B to make less power.

Its your money....I say H2B and dont look back

[rascles]

sticky that comment too much to read first few senteces coverd it though. h2b is always going to own, especially a fresh h22 or a rebuilt one, very reliable and fast

[isl_cruiser]

Wow......I know it might not mean much, but ^^^WHY WOULD U SWAP^^^ Keep your motor. Just my .02

Cams are always a fun upgrade. And I wouldn't upgrade my cams without goin big and replacing all my valvetrain. So if you have some extra cash go for it. But if not, N/A power is hard to make. Turbo is easy fun power, more bang for your buck.

Cams, valvetrain, intake, header, exhaust, clutch. Is pretty much all your gonna grab outa a cheapish N/A build. Cam gears are usless except for tuning IMO. Mine are left at stock till the turbo comes lol.

Not trying to seem like a prick or a know it alll. But the only reason I would ever swap out a B18c is for a b20vtec lol. And even then I would probably stick with the 1.8L and just tak it!

But for your best N/A power, high compression pistons, some stonger rods, some damn good head work, a set of ITB's, a fogger kit and all of the above haha.

[rascles]

well if you dont give a shit what emblem is on your car high 11 second fox bodies go for 4k

[ALlTroTTle]

just boost it, i think a gsr motor boosted with stock internals is more then enough, unless u wanna get into roll cages and shit.

[rascles]

that thing would burn oil like a bitch, turbo gsr lol better be fresh

[K20 Coupe]

budget build with what you got-

itr pistons. rod bolts. pro2 cams and valve train. good knock off header. hondata. s2 IM


but i do agree h and k is where to go. another thing thats good about the. the f20 also has non frm sleeves so you can put pistons and rods in it with out sleeving

[lifeline]

after reading h and f in 1 sentence i finally figured what an h2b is dam im slow. thought i was a dutsun motor. now i gota use my intigence to figure the g24 thang. D's r still good on the e chasis. i bet that last commet is so worthless to u guys lol.that jus me

[K20 Coupe]

Originally Posted by lifeline

after reading h and f in 1 sentence i finally figured what an h2b is dam im slow. thought i was a dutsun motor. now i gota use my intigence to figure the g24 thang. D's r still good on the e chasis. i bet that last commet is so worthless to u guys lol.that jus me

are you referring to me as the comment that was worthless?

[travisrex]

crispy

[SergEK]

Originally Posted by lifeline

after reading h and f in 1 sentence i finally figured what an h2b is dam im slow. thought i was a dutsun motor. now i gota use my intigence to figure the g24 thang. D's r still good on the e chasis. i bet that last commet is so worthless to u guys lol.that jus me

The "G" is basically an H/F frankenstein motor combo

Similar to LS/V or B20/V years ago...frankenstein...its alive!!!

[Keegsterkid]

h22 build- cost alot, but big big big power!
kseries build- harder install, expensive, lots of power
f22 build- under estimated, decent for turbo
b18 build- cheaper parts, very quick when boosted
b16 build- high revs(9-10k), fast fast fast!
d series build- never blows up, cheap, quick when boosted

not sure how accurate i am. correct me if i am wrong folks.

[SergEK]

Originally Posted by Keegsterkid

h22 build- cost alot, but big big big power!
kseries build- harder install, expensive, lots of power
f22 build- under estimated, decent for turbo
b18 build- cheaper parts, very quick when boosted
b16 build- high revs(9-10k), fast fast fast!
d series build- never blows up, cheap, quick when boosted

not sure how accurate i am. correct me if i am wrong folks.

"Building" a motor costs pretty much the same although the rare parts can get pricey

K's = expensive for everything - very good potential though
F22s are okay but need a DOHC VTEC head to flow right on the street
B18 = for NA getting too small
B16 = for NA almost hopeless
D15/16 = for NA also hopeless

H series has a great head in the DOHC VTEC version....it will out flow ported B series heads with just a simple valve job.