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Old 08-06-2008, 09:05 PM
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Post What is happening to the car scene?

The car scene is one where enthusiasts alike come together to show their pride and glory – correct? Not in the slightest bit. It’s a shame what is happening to the tuner world. Hate, trash-talking, discriminating, and fighting is the common trend in the car place today. It is a world where domestics hate imports, 8 cylinders hate 4 cylinders, and facts hate opinions.

American and Japanese rivalries go far back in the car scene but with the creation of the internet the lack of appreciation is at an all time high. What happened to showing respect for another’s creation? Clearly it has disappeared. If someone owns a car which another thinks is inferior they often have something bad to say about it instead of a simple congratulations. When a USDM enthusiast sees a fast 4 cylinder, instead of being impressed they are disgusted. Quotes can often be seen around the world-wide-web following the lines of something like “It’s still a piece of shit Civic,” or “Ricer! My 6.0L V-8 would kill that!”

Trash talking really disgusts me when it comes to cars. The term “ricer” seems to be as common as the word “the.” For every import that is modified it seems that the word ricer is used twenty times (no matter how clean the car actually is).

This lack of respect is changing the car scene into one that true enthusiasts cannot endure to witness. With TV, internet, and a consumer world the status symbol tends to play a large role. If a car does not have the name Ferrari or Lamborghini on it or lacks the presence of a Corvette symbol many people deem it not worthy. What happened to the fun and pride in modifying a car to make it perform better and represent you? To me, what makes a car is its character. I shall forever tip my hat to someone on a tight budget who turned a cheaper car into something that can perform or reflect that individual’s personality.

Maybe others will not agree with my statements but this is just a rant about how I see these things. Millions of comments are also posted on issues such as FWD vs. RWD. I for one cannot stand it when people say “What is the point of modifying a FWD car?” People put money into cars for different reasons. I for one am in university and I wanted a fun car that still got good gas mileage. For that reason, I bought a FWD Honda Civic. The common saying is that FWD cars under-steer and are horrible to drive, but that is simply not true. Many things can be purchased to help rid of under-steer such as LSD, sway bars, new suspension, etc. Yes, RWD is fun to drive and might be a bit better on the track, but some knowledge and investments can go a long way and a FWD car can compete with a RWD car. I understand that I may face some harsh comments for that, but I simply could care less about what you say. This is my opinion and I am a believer that whether a car is ff, fr, rr or what have you, does not make a large difference. What matters is the driver, and the person putting the time and sweat into making it better.

Cars need character. If time did not go into making a car its own, then why should it be deemed worthy of a nice car? I will forever salute those who make a car their own instead of buying a $300,000 car and acting as if they are superior. Sure, they may have more money but we all know that they are not an enthusiast. Instead, they are someone who is looking to be a status symbol and reign superior over the rest.

To me, cars are art. They are more than a way of transportation. They express emotions, creativity, individuality and expression. For those who really put up arguments over issues of import vs. domestic, horsepower figures over power-to-weight, FWD vs. RWD, and which car is better, you disgust me. Respect everyone’s creation. Each person is unique. They modified their car for a number of reasons. Just because they may be different from yours or have different tastes does not make them inferior. If you are really going to judge on such small issues then you are a very stuck-up and ignorant person. If a car makes you happy, then keep to it. Don’t listen to others because in the end sweet ol’ karma always strikes. Any car can perform with any other select car, as long as the time and investment is put into it. So for all you true enthusiasts out there, way to be living your dream. And for those of you picking fights and putting down others, I say you are not worthy to represent the car scene.



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Old 08-06-2008, 11:09 PM
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How many criminals exist --- do you think they give a rats ass about what you feel is "right"

They steal, cheat, rob etc...

Its the same for ignorant automotive people. They dont really care about anything other than THEIR OWN OPINIONS

So leave them be...much like criminals automotive jerks car rarely ever be "rehabilitated" they will remain low life ignorant ass hats their whole lives

But rejoice in smoking the crap out of them and watching them blow a fuse

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agreed.
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Sorry to break it to you but stuff like trash talking/rivalries and theft amongst other stuff is what has and what will always be the bi-product with autos.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:02 AM
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oh i know, which is what i said, i just said it is more obvious now because of the internet (considering most of it happens online)

it really is a shame,
i just wish the arguments were actually over something worth while
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:02 AM
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lol "ass hats"
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oh i know, which is what i said, i just said it is more obvious now because of the internet (considering most of it happens online)
Stay off the internet, or just look at the pics/watch the vids and dont read the comments if its a problem. Works for me, im hardly ever on anymore.
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agreed its best to ignore it and/or laugh it off cause it's at such an extreme.... like you said as long as it makes you happy and if you happen to meet people that agree with you or show you the same respect you show then then be it you have found a good person.
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Old 08-07-2008, 05:21 AM
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Quotes can often be seen around the world-wide-web following the lines of something like “It’s still a piece of shit Civic,” or “Ricer! My 6.0L V-8 would kill that!”
In my opinion, it is remarks and attitudes like these that have enabled us "Ricer's" to develop such competetive cars.

I think it is far worse when Japanese Automotive enthusiasts divulge in 'elitism'. Remarks along the lines of 'My skyline pwns your crappy Honda' are what get to me. I thought we were more intelligent than that.
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i don't know where you live, but around here is isn't like that at all. (and who cares about the internet, most people are fake as hell on it anyway)

a car guy, is a car guy, is a car guy. period.
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:50 AM
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we dont have that problem where I live we just argue about whos tractor is sexier
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:43 AM
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i don't know where you live, but around here is isn't like that at all. (and who cares about the internet, most people are fake as hell on it anyway)

a car guy, is a car guy, is a car guy. period.
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where i'm from there are so little enthusiasts that if your doing your car the way u like it's love. maybe that is how it should be everywheres . i have had guys driving 5l mustangs roll up on me and tell me they liked my civic. my buddy almost s**t his pants cause he thought they wanted to race
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There will forever be things said and done in poor taste.

It is up to the individual, not the scene, to be above what is said and done.
Intolerance for bigots is no better than intolerance for one another...

For things said, there is a reason that we have The First Amendment in America. It is so we can learn to take things in stride and maintain resistance towards ill-mindedness... If I want to rant about how poorly built a Corvette is versus a Ferrari, I have every right to. You as the individual have every right to challenge, ignore, accept as an opinion, but more importantly than anything, learn and respond by whatever you think and feel is right.

This isn't a car related issue at all. This is a life and people issue...
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